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I thought I had glommed onto a really, really great idea! And then I thought of one really, really big problem with it. It had to do with Pippi the youkai girl ... .

- she's Nataku.

It was when I was looking at that weird up-from-below view of her and Goku on the back of the wagon full of explosives - the one where you can see right up their nostrils (p. 110, if I'm counting correctly - maybe about 2/5 of the way through that chapter). And she has these tendrils of hair curving up and back from her forehead, and I kept wondering who that reminded me of - she has 4 or 5, and Gojyo only has 2 (his "antennae").

And then it hit me! Nataku, and his tendrils! And she looks like him other ways, too - she has his hairline, and their eyes are similar except for her slit pupils, and the eyebrows are very close.

But ... then the other shoe dropped. Nataku's not dead.

Shoot.

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Date: 2008-07-23 02:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
AND PEOPLE CAN BE SWORDS!

Date: 2008-07-23 02:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
Whole other level...

Date: 2008-07-23 02:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freeradical9.livejournal.com
Yes, yes! Eeevil and insanely sharp swords with many pointy points! :D

Date: 2008-07-23 02:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
I haven't read Gaiden, but I do know parts, and some of it was in the anime (no judging, it led to my getting the manga) but...isn't Nataku kinda comatose or something? Or at least mentally shut out?

Maybe a piece of Nataku(like his soul or some such) out and about in the human world for freedom or some such?

(And, of course, I could be remembering/thinking completely wrong...)

Date: 2008-07-23 02:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
So, soul is out wandering, decided to be physical for a while, got born...now is dead and maybe free to go home?

Date: 2008-07-23 04:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] avierra.livejournal.com
Yeah, but Li-touten was a stooge of some unnamed person or persons, wasn't he? I don't think Li-touten personally killed the Emperor, did he? I got the impression that was done by others. I kind of wonder if one of the people who put Li-touten up to the whole coup thing (who are shadowy and undefined at this point, his unindicted co-conspirators) is Nii's precursor.

But it is 12:30 at night, I could be all wet about this. ;) I guess I need to go back and read, but I thought I remembered that there was a Cabal to over set the order of Heaven. (TINC).

Date: 2008-07-23 02:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freeradical9.livejournal.com
Edited to actually make sense this time

Ooh! But, but...have you read Angel Sanctuary by Kaori Yuki? Soulless (but somehow still living) bodies can remain in Heaven while the souls undergo reincarnation on Earth. It could work! :D

You're right, she does look like Nataku!

Date: 2008-07-23 04:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] avierra.livejournal.com
Well, Nataku is still alive, but I think Minekura was pretty clearly drawing a parallel between the two of them.

Nataku was Goku's first friend of his own age, Pippi was his first crush (I don't want to call her a girlfriend, but she may have become one if they had hung around a bit longer, there was an attraction there, I think)

They both had a very intense, short-lived relationship with Goku, and

They both went out in a blaze of glory, so to speak, providing Goku with his first real personal, permanent loss in each part of his life (Tenkai vs. his earthly existence)
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Date: 2008-07-24 06:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com
That would have been so awesome and made so much sense.

However, are while Nataku's not dead, is his soul really around?
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