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Holy crap. Foreigner is up to volume 20.

This series is not my favorite C.J. Cherryh reading: it comes after Alliance/Union, Cyteen, and the Chanur series. The endless perils of human ambassador/interpretor Bren Cameron as he attempts to keep human and Atevi factions (plus, in recent books, a completely different non-human species) talking and not shooting is becoming much of a muchness. I confess to skipping over multiple paragraphs of the political situation every time I read one of these.

And yet, and yet … there's such a level of comfort of slipping into Cherryh's distinctive prose once again. I'm also more than a little fond of the scenes from the viewpoint of young Cajeiri, the atevi prince who has known Bren almost since babyhood and so is becoming (it seems) the real key to understanding between the species. I really want more of Cajeiri and his young human associates (Atevi don't have friends, we are told again and again), but the three kids from space are almost entirely offstage for this volume.

In a nutshell, Bren and his aishad (inner household, consisting mainly of intrepid bodyguards who are members in good standing of the Assassins Guild) and the redoubtable and cranky atevi Dowager Ilisidi are pursuing peace/accord with some atevi factions outside of the usual core ethnic group that has been sponsoring Bren for most of the series. Most of the action takes place aboard the Red Train, the specially reinforced and secured rail conveyance of the aiji of Shejidan, the Paris/London/Washington of the atevi world. There is skullduggery, fighting, and dirty politics. And things come to a resting point rather than an end, because the series is structured in trilogies, and this is the middle of one.

Meanwhile, back in Shejidan, Cajeiri starts to understand the nature of the restrictions on his life and grows up a little, including taking a step unthinkable several volumes ago. It's a little sad, but sweet.

So: if this is your cuppa, it's more of what you would like. If you haven't liked previous volumes, you won't like this one. And if you haven't been reading along, obviously, volume 20 is no place to start a series.

Date: 2020-02-06 03:16 am (UTC)
sholio: sun on winter trees (Default)
From: [personal profile] sholio
I wish I liked this series more than I do. I read the first book and it didn't engage me enough to go on to the next one. There's a part of me that just sadly wishes that if she was going to write 20 volumes with one set of characters/one world, it would be one of the ones that I'm more into than these.

But I've also only read one book, so one of these days I should give another book or two a chance, and see if I like it better once I get deeper in.

Date: 2020-02-06 04:00 am (UTC)
yhlee: Alto clef and whole note (middle C). (Default)
From: [personal profile] yhlee
I feel the same way about this series--I made it like three or four books in, realized it wasn't wrapping up anytime soon, and gave up, probably not helped because I find Bren Cameron really annoying. The thought of having to wade through 20 volumes of Bren Cameron to see what's the current state of affairs is a hard no. But OTOH, it must be making money for her if the series is still going???

Date: 2020-02-06 01:45 pm (UTC)
oracne: turtle (Default)
From: [personal profile] oracne
UGH, that means I am like 15 or 16 volumes behind. OTOH, 15 or 16 volumes of Cherryh that are new to me!

Date: 2020-02-09 09:35 am (UTC)
viridian5: the Queen of Hearts from Patricia A. McKillips' _Fool's Run_ (Default)
From: [personal profile] viridian5
I wish more of the recent Foreigner books would advance things further than they do, but I still read them. (I got so excited by the surprise in Visitor but not much has been done with it since...) I haven't gotten to Resurgence yet since my "to be read" pile is massive.

Maybe you might be able to help me? I have a friend who has an extra copy of Emergence (Foreigner #19) and I'm wondering if you know someone who'd like a free copy of it. Thanks!

Re: extra copy of CJC Foreigner #19

Date: 2020-02-17 06:43 am (UTC)
viridian5: the Queen of Hearts from Patricia A. McKillips' _Fool's Run_ (Default)
From: [personal profile] viridian5
Thank you so much for your reply. It'll probably end up being donated to a library.


I'm surrounded by readers, but few seem into SF.

I can relate.

Date: 2020-02-10 02:17 pm (UTC)
tabacoychanel: (bibliophile)
From: [personal profile] tabacoychanel
Would you recommend the first few Foreigner books to someone who enjoys Cherryh's work? And would you consider them required reading or do you think there's some other overlooked gems I should tackle first?

Re: Where to start with Cherryh

Date: 2020-02-19 10:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tabacoychanel
Thank you for taking the time to draw out the pros/cons for me, I appreciate this! 99.9% of what Jo Walton enjoys I also enjoy, so that decided me for Pride of Chanur.

I have read Cherryh's Morgaine Cycle and I always did wonder why she bothered draping the fantasy in SF accoutrements

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