Gravitation, vols. 1-5 (Maki Murakami)
Oct. 29th, 2007 06:41 pmThis is a deeply silly series. In fact, it was inspiring me to filk (to the tune of the Beatles' "Paperback Writer"): "It's a silly story 'bout a silly band, and the writer dude doesn't understand ... ."
High school senior Shuichi Shindo, 18, has a great singing voice, delusions of song-writing ability, and a minimal talent for playing the keyboards. He and his sweet, long-suffering best friend and guitarist Hiroshi Nakano make up the pop band Bad Luck, which plays mostly at high school events. One night, he's taking a shortcut through a park when he drops the lyrics to a love song. As the paper blows away, it's picked up by a handsome foreign-looking man who reads it and tells Shuichi that it's utter drivel. Shuichi becomes obsessed with this guy, who turns out to be a popular romance novelist who goes by the nom de plume of Eiri Yuki. Although Yuki seems to despise Shuichi as well as his songwriting, he shows a remarkable tolerance for having his home invaded regularly by the lovestruck teen, and eventually they become lovers. Meanwhile, Shuichi and Hiroshi get a couple of lucky breaks, leading to a contract for Bad Luck. Soon Shuichi and Yuki are up to their necks in a series of ridiculous but fairly entertaining soap opera plots, involving rivalry among bands and singers, family obligations, revenge, and more.
The fact that this series doesn't take itself very seriously keeps me from wanted to kick it to the curb (as Shuichi keeps imagining Yuki will do to him), and every once in a while something with a bit of emotional punch happens. The "what in the world will they get up to next?" factor is strong enough that I'll keep reading it for now. The fact that Yuki is only 22 (when did he start writing, anyway?) keeps the squick factor about the relationship to a minimum.
Gravitation, vols. 1-5 (review)
I have to say that, given the silliness of most of the book, Taki's revenge plots take an awfully sinister turn. The gang rape of Shuichi and its aftermath do give the story more of an edge, but it's sort of icky that things have to go that far to get the reader (this reader, at least) emotionally invested in the story. Given the seriousness of this incident, and Hiroshi's and Yuki's reactions to it , it's sort of jarring that Taki proceeds to turn into the Wiley Coyote of the series: who needs a new villain when Taki can be scraped off the road one more time to take another crack at Shuichi? Then there's the whole issue of Yuki's past crimes ... I'm sure he'll turn out to have a good reason for what he did, but the whole subject is tossed around so lightly, and in the middle of so much other fluff, that I'm simply not worried about it.
The drawing style is rather sloppy ... this is perhaps the first manga I've seen where I find myself thinking "hmmm, you know, I could draw at least that well." It wouldn't matter except that it gets very, very hard to tell the characters apart. In particular, I keep getting Yuki mixed up with Tohma Seguchi, the producer, and the Young Lady says she gets Yuki's sister Mika (who is married to Seguchi ... did I mention that this whole thing is very incestuous? Everyone is related to or used to work with everyone else, it seems ...) mixed up with Noriko, the keyboard player that's brought in to fill out Bad Luck's roster.
Shuichi is a complete airhead, and very girly on the personality level. I suppose it's indicative of Yuki's eventual return crush on him that he puts up with Shuichi's babbling. The degree to which this boy gets flipped out by the idea of real sex strikes me as a bit silly. I have a feeling that what may be going on with me here is that this is, I think, my first encounter with the stereotypical seme/uke relationship (and I'd welcome comments about this issue). Some of the stuff I've read about the series online says that things are different in Gravitation because it's Shuichi who's actively pursuing the relationship, but to me, that's just window-dressing. He's fluffy and passive when things get physical, and does some very girly passive-aggressive stuff with Yuki. I did like it when Yuki laid out all the things he'd done for Shuichi that should have indicated how much he cares - but what's funny about is that it's the typical male/female communications issue: she (or in this case, Shuichi) wants elaborate confessions of love, verbally, wereas he (Yuki) is expressing his love by what he does, not what he says. I also can't figure out why they keep saying that Shuichi isn't really gay. I wonder if that's a mistranslation, and what is meant is that he's not just seeking out gay sex for the sake of sex.
The character I like the most is Hiroshi, who is a really good, kind person. He's secure enough with his own straight sexuality to joke around outrageously with Shuichi in public to entertain their fangirls and to discourage Shuichi without overreacting when Shuichi starts to come on to him a bit (example: the whole thing about how nice Hiroshi's hair smells when Shuichi is riding behind him on the bike). He's also really good and effective when Shuichi is attacked.
I'm curious enough about how it all works out to keep reading, even though parts of it aggravate me.
One last thought: the Young Lady loves this series, and tends to laugh aloud a great deal while reading it.
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Date: 2007-10-29 11:55 pm (UTC)This is because(as far as I know) you have been very carefully guided in your manga reading so far...
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Date: 2007-10-29 11:58 pm (UTC)You're probably right! But as with science fiction and fantasy, I'm unlike to read manga that were not recommended to me by somebody whose opinion I value.
So what about the other things I brought up? Is this actually the first time I've run across the classic seme/uke set-up, or have ˆ just missed it elsewhere?
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Date: 2007-10-30 12:03 am (UTC)(I actually did try reading this very, very early in my manga reading days-before encountering the rabid yaoi fangirls that give me most of my annoyance w/ the genre-but didn't care much for it. IIRC, I thought both guys could use a punch in the face, but for differeing reasons.)
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Date: 2007-10-30 01:26 am (UTC)Well, for some reason I'm pleased to see that I'm as annoyed by the seme/uke stereotype as I thought I would be ... ! (Sort of the same way that Akira is pleased that Kyo can still pulverize him, you know?)
I repeated your comment about the punches to the Young Lady ... she grinned and said "Yeah, I know, but I still love them. Sometimes you just need a good piece of soap opera!"
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Date: 2007-10-30 02:08 am (UTC)And as for punching...well, in fiction, those we love the most would benefit from a punch in the face...I honestly believe that half the SDK, BotI and Saiyuki casts would GREATLY benefit from one.
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Date: 2007-10-30 08:56 pm (UTC)Well ... punching may be a little extreme in many cases. But yes ... a slap, havinf their ears boxed, or even just a good shaking would indeed seem to be in order! (And yet in other cases, a punch wouldn't be enough!)
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Date: 2007-10-30 01:45 am (UTC)Hmmm ... I would blame it all on age, or at least perceived mental age, but I have a feeling it's not that simple. People have described Yukimura as genki too, but in his case, it's only the face the he shows to the world. And I have a feeling that's part of my problem with it. Yes, the Saiyuki boys' problems are way over the top, but at least they give some reason for the guys' dysfunctional behavior.
I think that's part of the issue for me: the main sources of the problems are miscommunication, unequal expectations, and social climbing (in this case, status = popularity instead of class). Shuichi's family may be disappointed in him, but they love him. Yuki's family may be rigid in their expectations, but his encounters with them are really pretty mild as such things go, and he's no longer dependent on them, anyway. All of the threats to the protagonists' happiness are so trivial. Given the girls' reactions to Shuichi and Hiroshi's playacting, why is everyone so convinced that revelations of a gay relationship will sink Yuki's career?
This is why the whole rape scene and its aftermath were so jarring: in contrast to everything else that's been happening, here's something that could really mess up someone's life. And Shuichi more or less rolls with it, once Yuki has proved his love by stepping in. So in the end, it's as trivial as everything else.
There is a certain amusement, however, in the over-the-topness of it all. It's actually more fun when it's being totally fluffy - which is odd, because some of the serious scenes are done with a moderately effective sensitivity. I guess the mixture just doesn't work for me.
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Date: 2007-10-30 02:07 am (UTC)I would compare Shuichi as uke to two of CLAMP's genki ukes -- Kazahaya of Legal Drug and Watanuki of XXXholic. Even though both of those guys can overemote, they do have quiet, gentle moments, and their tantrums are closer to 12 years old than five and they do have moments that show just why their semes would be attracted to them. I don't know what Yuki sees in Shuichi, while I can sort of see what Shuichi sees in Yuki.
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Date: 2007-10-30 09:02 pm (UTC)So Watanuki counts as an uke? Huh! :-D But I see what you mean about the contrast in tantrum styles. Poor Watanuki - he needs assertiveness training. (Would you recommend Legal Drug?)
Yeah, I also have a tough time seeing what Yuki sees in him. He's just not that cute as far as looks go (although he may be meant to be much more attractive than he appears in the manga - this is another place where the drawing style works against the story), and the personality is just appalling. If Yuki had wanted someone he'd have to bring up, his little fiancee would have done just fine.
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Date: 2007-10-30 09:18 pm (UTC)So in terms of XXXholic and Legal Drug, Watanuki is to Kazahaya as Doumeki is to Rikuo.
I like Legal Drug. It's one of the more obviously shounen-ai CLAMP series, and there's an older male couple who are clearly already a settled couple. There are only two things I don't like about it. One is that it's not really finished. Only three volumes have been published because something happened with the magazine it was originally published in. CLAMP says they'll come back to it eventually. I hope they do. The other thing I don't like is that the characters bully Kazahaya a good bit, which I don't think is fair to him. But yeah, I recommend it. That's one series where I want to write a self-insert fic in which I give good advice to the characters. :-)
Do you read Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle at all? That's another one I recommend for its relationships.
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Date: 2007-11-01 12:28 am (UTC)Hmmm, yes, I'm familiar with the height rule (which makes SDK doujinshi artists draw Yukimura as a cute little thing who's apparently younger than Kyo ... because he's shorter and more girly, so he has to be younger, right?). I like the observation about the psychic abilities, which matches up to what sanada told me early on in my manga reading about female characters in manga.
I haven't read Tsubasa ... I know it's linked in with xxxHolic. Thanks for the rec on Legal Drug.
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Date: 2007-11-06 02:12 am (UTC)Hmmm ... yeah, and the ages are even more or less right. (OK, Yuki is 22 to Sanzo's 23, but - close enough.)
(And calling this guy Yuki is going to kill me - to me, Yuki is always Sanada Yukimura from SDK ... ! I guess it's no worse than guys named Alex in the Young Lady's class ... after all, there's a Yuki in Fruits Basket, too.)
I have a feeling it's meant to be the gay version of the "ditzy starlet and professor"-pairiing from various classic movies, but it's not quite playing out that way. For one thing, Eiri doesn't have a really brainy vibe to me. I've known tough-acting brains, but still, there was usually something, well, brainier about them.
Shortly after she started reading Saiyuki, ipperne actually dug up a pic of Eiri in glasses where he looked to be a doing a moderately successful imitation of Sanzo in his newspaper-reading specs.
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Date: 2007-10-30 01:06 am (UTC)I can't see Shuichi ever having sex.
Only thing good about this series: K. I remember liking Suguru, too. All the secondary characters made me happy.
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Date: 2007-10-30 01:50 am (UTC)Yeah, K is fun. And besides that, his hairstyle makes him easy to tell apart from other people!
I keep wanting to hear about Hiroshi's social life instead. (And man is it tempting to think in slash terms ... I mean, Hiroshi knows how to handle Shuichi much better than Yuki does. But you're right about Shuichi, and I think Hiroshi deserves a partner who could go for it with gusto!)
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Date: 2007-11-06 02:29 am (UTC)Well, it's probably my fault for zipping through them so fast and on Tylenol 3 ... after I read the next five, maybe I'll start from the beginning again. I''m sure you're right about the eyes. (Seguchi is probably on some really good drugs or something ... .)
Yeah, Hiro's a sweetie!
You and your hair thing! You really need to read SDK ... HAIR!!! - Mahiro and her amazing near-prehensile hair; teenaged Hotaru and his cute pigtail; Quadruple threat - Yukimura, Kyo, Shinrei, Hotaru (unfortunately, it's Kyo-in-Kyoushirou's-body, so he doesn't have his long hair); Muramasa, Kyo's old teacher; femme fatale Okuni (hmmm, she looks like Gojyo's civilised cousin, doesn't she? With the antennae thing going on?); wild man Kyo from four years before the series starts ... - and the hair goes on ~ !
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Date: 2007-11-08 08:47 pm (UTC)Check out this picture ... is the guy you mean the one in the upper left?
If so, that's Kirigakure Saizo (usually just Saizo), currently the leader of Sanada Yukimura's "Ten," the legendary ninja warriors who defend and spy for Yukimura. Their legend existed centuries before SDK ever started.
In SDK, Saizo is a really sweet guy, but a bit of a mother hen, and far more conscious of Yukimura's rank and honor than Yukimura himself tends to be.
I'm reading the next installment of Gravitation, and I'm getting a little better at telling folks apart.
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Date: 2007-11-09 10:25 pm (UTC)"Painfully loyal" just about sums Saizo up. In vol. 11, in the two-part Yukimura backstory at the end, you get to see him (and Yukimura) in his late teens as well. (Also Kosuke, one of the 2 female members of the Juyuushi ... but she's barely into her teens at the time.)
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Date: 2007-11-11 04:46 am (UTC)Either that wasn't Kyo, or it was something they invented for the anime ... the only person who meets that description at all is Okuni, and she's no noblewoman - she's basically a kunoichi, although more of the glamorous spy type rather then the ninja type. Huh. Yeah. Saizo might do that, but there's no scene like that in the manga.
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Date: 2007-11-11 05:50 pm (UTC)Oooh, Sakuya - yeah, it's debatable that she was ever Kyo's love-interest. (Kyo/Kyoushirou/Sakuya threesome, anyone? It's certainly a popular idea with a lot of the fangirls, anyway ... .)
Hmm ... I think the first time we see her (except in flashback bubbles above people's heads) in the manga, Yukimura is visting her and is being pretty humble ... she offers him tea, and he apologizes for not bringing any cakes to go with it, and she freaks him out slightly by saying that she already bought some dango (Yukimura's love for dango is something of a running joke) - not only that, she bought them from the shop that he thinks makes the best dango, and got them with sauce, the way he likes them. (This is mildly creepy because he's visiting on the spur of the moment - she wasn't told he was coming.) He ends up saying something about "You're truly a remarkable woman."
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Date: 2007-10-30 03:14 am (UTC)The "I'm not gay" thing is probably not a translation error, but a very common trope. It means, gay men are men who are sexually attracted to men in general; I am not usually attracted to men, but I am really attracted to you, who happen to be a man; therefore, I'm not gay.
I think it's supposed to be romantic, like proof that they're really meant for each other. It's a trope I could live without.
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Date: 2007-10-30 09:10 pm (UTC)Arrrgh, silliness about the gay attitudes ... in real world terms, it's more like "I didn't realize I was gay until I finally saw someone of the same sex who really floated my boat." Oh well ... it's not like these things are written with a gay audience in mind. But it would be nice, IMO, if there were some fluffy, funny manga with gay romantic situations that could actually be appreciated by both straight female and gay male teens ... . Maybe there are, and I just haven't hit them.
(I tend to see all these things through the lens of my friendship with a gay guy who didn't even begin to be comfortable with himself until halfway through college ... I always find myself thinking, "What would this have looked like to T. his first year at school?" It spoils a lot of fluff for me, but ... eh, it's worth it.)
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Date: 2007-10-30 11:56 pm (UTC)I do think the definition of "gay" differs from country to country and even from culture to culture, which is why HIV-prevention groups explicitly differentiate between "gay" and "men who have sex with men but don't identify as gay." Sometimes it means they're closeted, but sometimes I think it's different cultures having different ideas about sexual identity.
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Date: 2007-11-01 12:34 am (UTC)Oooh, lovely, more recommendations! (BTW, I actually got the first several vols. of Monster a while back, and did like them pretty well ... I need to get back to them, and re-read and blog them.)
Good point on the definition of "gay." Yes, I know that in many cases (in both modern and historical cultures), for instance, taking the seme-type role is not a big deal, particularly if the guy also goes with women, but acting as uke/bottom is totally shameful. (An issue that I toss around in my own SDK Theater of the Mind, with reference to Yukimura ... like the leader of a clan in exile on a barren mountain doesn't have enough to worry about already ... .)
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Date: 2007-11-01 12:36 am (UTC)Hmmmm .... yes, I've leafed through Fake at the store, back when I was a little more timid about buying manga.
(BTW - and this is not quite apropos of nothing ... the unresolved UST made me think of it - are you a fan of Dorothy Dunnett's Lymond Chronicles?)
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Date: 2007-11-06 02:46 am (UTC)Dorothy Dunnett's "Lymond Chronicles" is six volumes of highly detailed and equally addictive historical fiction, with enough UST between the titular character and many of the other interesting male characters (and several female characters ... but some of that gets resolved) for several manga series. Also - derring do, politics, people in disguise (including cross dressing in both directions), mercenaries, sibling guilt, betrayal, incest, mysticism, illegitimate children, cross-generation romance, spies, masquerades, harems, assassins, opium addiction, beautiful boys ... pretty much whatever you can imagine!
Oyceter's comments on the series are here - item #3; here's another LJ'er's write-up.
As noted, this is not an easy read ... but it's really, really worth it. The final volume is actually a bit weaker than some of the others - it was written several years after the 5th book, as the author apparently had some doubts about being able to wrap things up. Nevertheless, even that one has its charms.
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Date: 2007-11-08 04:24 am (UTC)I've read some of them and enjoyed them at the time, but I don't feel any strong attachment to them emotionally, you know what I mean? (My late father had several of them in the house.) Lymond is a lot more heavy-duty, just about any way you want to consider it (and yet there are some genuinely hilarious scenes in them, too).
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Date: 2007-10-30 03:14 am (UTC)I was fully prepared to HATE Yuki and the whole Yuki/Shuuichi pairing because Yuki was a real bastard in the anime and he had a lot less emotional depth. I actually rather enjoyed him in the manga, even if I did want to slap him around a bit and tell him to GET OVER IT. Shuuichi is... obnoxious, but he brings a lot of heart and manic humor to the series so I can look past the fact that he's basically a girl. And for a mainstream series, Gravitation really pushes some boundaries!
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Date: 2007-10-30 09:22 pm (UTC)Well, the author is pretending Hiro's straight! I'm playing with her card deck right now ... heh, so maybe the doujinshi are why ipperne has so much fun with this (and that reminds me that I never got you to look at my un-smutty Saiyuyki doujinshi last time you were down). Yes, K. is fun. And he's easier to tell apart form the other characters ... XD
I guess being a best-selling author with legions of fan girls at 22 would tend to give a guy an attitude ... I can just see him coming on with typical male introvert abruptness in early interviews and having the interviewers characterize him as "brooding" and "wistful" and other positive things, so he'd start getting into it a little too much. In fact, taken in that light, Shuichi's influence begins to look almost positive ... .
Yes, there is a kind of emotional honesty to it - that may be why I don't feel like dropping it completely. Except for Taki, who really is just a cartoon (duh - well, of course) villain - if he had a mustache, he'd twirl it ... .
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Date: 2007-10-31 09:03 pm (UTC)You know, after reading all the comments I'm kinda distracted. *goes back to read actual entry*
(btw; I am having much fun with remixes, yes^^)
An important thing to remember about Gravitation is that if it didn't have all the sillyness, the story wouldn't be able to cover so many taboos without disgusting most people. Eiri is actually a very tragic person, and almost everyone who loves (or only pretend to maybe) him, ends up hurting him in one way or another. And along comes Shuichi, not even caring about the fact that they are both men, but just loving him for who he is. Not that I will ever understand that, because I don't really like Eiri that much.
Thoma Seguchi is a big fat fake, and it does take a few more vols. for him to realize(well, sorta realize) that he isn't helping anyone by acting the way he does. Fujisaki (a prime example af the whole "everyone is related to someone one way or another"-deal)is a lot like Thoma, don't you think?
That drawing style will improve, but I think that already in the first vol. the general artwork is kinda just there, but all the frames with some emotional something are very well done, and I think it helps drawing attention to the main story, and makes readers forget the silliness for a second. The improvement mentioned above will be around vol. 7 or 8 I think. But especially in the sequel Gravitation EX there's a big difference.
A final note; K claims to be straight
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Date: 2007-11-01 07:55 pm (UTC)>> An important thing to remember about Gravitation is that if it didn't have all the sillyness, the story wouldn't be able to cover so many taboos without disgusting most people.<<
Hmm, interesting point, and matches what sanada was saying. It also reminds me of how gay characters were first portrayed on U.S. TV, as asexual, idiosyncratic clowns, because that way they weren't threatening. But they paved the way for portrayals with slightly more depth.
Re Eiri - did you see what I was saying about him to sanada, above? He's still pretty young, and his personality has been helped by fame at an early age.
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Date: 2007-11-01 08:23 pm (UTC)Heh, that description reminds me of Will & Grace, funny, but... very clowny.
Now, I can't remember when exactly it happens in the series, but do you know what happened to Eiri in New York when he was a child? It's impressive htat he can handle the fame actually. Well, handle it that well, because he's not handeling it that well after all...
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Date: 2007-11-02 06:34 pm (UTC)No, I don't think I've heard about Eiri in New York. Given that I have to be out for more surgery, I'll see about getting some more of these. Anyway, the Young Lady would like to read them too!
Yeah, I'm not sure what I think about their treatment of the rape. Except that I love Hiro's reactions ... on the other hand, the fact that Eiri thought first of revenge rather than checking on how Shuichi was doing rather bothers me. It's very classic stereotypical male: "That other guy touched my special stuff and now he's going to pay for it."
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Date: 2007-11-04 06:04 pm (UTC)Well, Eiris reaction is pretty much just him. And the reason to why he takes up revenge right away, is because he knows that Hiro has already taken care of Shuichi, so he knows Shu is allright. Or as right as one can be after that... but still. But Eiri does take care ( in the Eiri-way)of Shu later on...
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Date: 2007-11-06 02:31 am (UTC)Well, I now have vols. 6-10 to read while I recover over the next few days, so I should be able to see what you mean!
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Date: 2007-11-08 04:27 am (UTC)I'll be sure to let you know ... although there are about 5 other manga series I still need to blog, also!
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Date: 2007-11-07 08:48 am (UTC)And it's always easier to recover when there's something to read - I was swearing loud and for a very long time after my last surgery, 'cause my arm was totally wrapped up so I couldn't control my books...
So, get up and going soon, okay? *hugs*
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Date: 2007-11-08 04:26 am (UTC)I will! >hugs back<